• wazoobonkerbrain@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    This meme is poorly worded. It says that it’s grandma’s fault that October used to be cold. It should say that it’s Grandma’s fault that October is no longer cold.

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    Meh. Can we have the same meme but with old rich men?

    If you want to represent the generations that fucked the climate up for gain, let’s pick folks who look a bit more like those who did.

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    It’s scary and yet many people refuse to believe in climate change. I’ve had argument with a denier on social media. I can tell that the person is not being deliberately malicious, because he did let up on some points, but he’s the type to kick the can down the road and hopelessly hoping to deal with the problem later on. I think a lot of people who handwaves the seriousness of climate change prefer to look the other way. I know far too many people who are like this even if it’s not about climate change.

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        It is a natural process as humans are natural.

        And we are releasing natural stuff that is accelerating the change of the climate.

        It’s much easier to pretend humans aren’t impacting it if people are allowed paint humans actions as outside nature. We are a huge part of nature, there’s 6 billion of us.

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      I know scientifically minded people who view it both as ‘hysteria,’ and for what remains, something that geoengineering can solve in the future.

      In other words, look up the WSJ article advocating for fossil fuel production maximization as a net economic optimization in the long term, basically ‘better to maximize efficiency and minimize suffering now, to better geoengineer solutions in the future.’

      …I read geoengineering papers. They are horrific. As in “our state-of-the-art-solution would… pour acid rain over the ice caps. And it’s still economically unfeasible, but less unfeasible. And maybe it will blunt things some?”

      I’m offended such arguments are being presented.

      But I can see right where those opinions come from, as with every twist of climate change denialism.


      The environmental conspiracists are right. It really is Big Oil and such groups, from what I can see.

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      it reminds me of this quote from game of thrones, is not the same thing, but it gives the same vibe about the scope of people’s thinking and worries: “The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends. It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace. They never are.”

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    Ah yes, I remember when my grandmother spent a century undermining scientific research on climate change through a massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests

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      Did your Grandma vote for and openly support the massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests?

      If so, then yes she is also at fault for the reason it isn’t Cold in October anymore.

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        Oh another thing my grandmother is personally responsible for is fomenting working class infighting to keep people squabbling and not looking upwards at the people who are the real cause of problems. That was also her specifically.

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          Oh you don’t need to throw the class problem at me. I’m very well aware, but it’s cute you think this is an attack on your Me-ma’s cookies while the scary black man has a cookie too.

          But your grandma, you, and everyone reading this comment has a choice when it comes to democracy. You can vote for people to represent you who support your values, support your beliefs, and allow you to hold them accountable if they don’t do as their “employers” voted them to do. Voting for someone is a show of personal value. If you vote for a candidate who is anti-climate change, you are against the idea of climate change. I am married to a trans person and if I ever voted for someone who wanted to eliminate “transgenderism”, I’d be voting to kill my partner, thus not supporting their right to exist even though I’m married to them.

          Are there much larger contributors to climate pollution that we should worry about? Yes.

          Are there billionaires that are the cause of the majority of the issues in the world? Yes.

          Should we fucking do something about that? Yes.

          But until you or I are willing to put bullets through brains and have a The Purge event for billionaires, we need to vote for people who will actually do something about the contributors to pollution, or to reign in the amount of money billionaires are able to siphon from the rest of us. And that starts by voting for people at regional and city levels, and go from there.

          Sorry, I believe your vote is a representation of you as a person. But that vote could be at the ballot box, or a college campus in Orem, Utah in September of 2025.

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        Speak for yourself I’m wrapped in my blanket, but thats because of massive draft in my apt

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    Holy fuck. So this is the start of Super El Nino. I’m gonna call it, “winter that wasn’t”.

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        And the poor boomers that vote conservative because they believe in hierarchies, like my parents. The ones that vote for wars and defunding education and are pro corporations.

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    Impose voting rights restrictions that reduce their access. Take the average life expectancy in your country, reduce the number by whatever the voting age is in your country. Cut off their right to vote by that number.

    In the USA, where you can vote at 18, if the average life expectancy is 81 (made up a number), voting would end after 63. Pretty good way to ensure longterm thinking prevails.

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      They need to do something with the coal, this way at least smoke and sparks fly while she does parkour with her walker. It’s only a problem when she’s downwind from it or the mall isn’t outdoors.