Reliable Sources: How Wikipedia Admin David Gerard Launders His Grudges Into the Public Record
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    • swlabr@awful.systemsEnglish
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      2 years ago

      The guano-hole is dark, but full of bat-diamonds. Just presenting an excerpt of the reply chain, for the reader’s pleasure:

      Reply A, “WhiningCoil”:

      Yes, we’ve all thrown our hat in the ring in different ways. I chose to have children, be a father and a husband, live an honest industrious life as an example to my offspring, and attempt to preserve my way of life through them.

      You contributed to a miasma of chaos around the state violating my parental rights to confiscate my children’s reproductive capacity. You added one more talking point to the list I have to defeat when I’m arguing with my in-laws about the very real, documented shit our local school districts are doing that they’ve been MSNBC’ed about.

      I wouldn’t pat yourself on the back too hard. Although I suppose if you get your way, your impact on society may yet outlive mine, though I suspect my wife wouldn’t survive the shock of it.

      The fucking hubris to call that “Truth seeking” and play the victim.

      Reply B, “No_one”:

      To WhiningCoil, we’re all in a propaganda war whose outcome is critical. To you, it’s just a game of sorts. Not a life-or-death conflict whose outcome determines whether normies return to functional normality, or end up in cultural-revolution tier insanity.

      I get why he’s pissed at you, and I get why you as a young gay furry aren’t overly concerned with the possible normalisation of cultral-revolution tier social insanity.

      Like most young people, you probably believe, deep down that you’re immortal and it’ll all work out.

      Have you yet been forced to perform a maoist style self-criticism session IRL where you admit to your sin of being white-ish and promise to do better ? I guess not.

      • scruiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I chose to have children, be a father and a husband, live an honest industrious life as an example to my offspring, and attempt to preserve my way of life through them.

        Wow, just a few words off the 14 words.

        I find it kind of irritating how someone that doesn’t familiarize themselves with white supremacists rhetoric and methods might manage to view that phrase innocuously. But it really isn’t that hard to see through the bullshit once you’ve familiarized themselves with the most basic dog whistles and slogans.

    • V0ldek@awful.systemsEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I have never edited the LessWrong article, not sure what you’re talking about.

      receipts posted

      I meant I have never disruptively edited the article. (…) I’m not a power user of Wikipedia and don’t understand all your specialist terminology

      Dude physically unable to take an L.

      • blakestacey@awful.systemsMEnglish
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        2 years ago

        “Specialist terminology” like… the word edit?

        Not sure writing an encyclopedia is a good hobby for you, bro.

        • blakestacey@awful.systemsMEnglish
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          2 years ago

          OK, I just spent 10 minutes of my life that I’ll never get back clicking around Wikipedia edit histories, and it seems that LessWrongers are really unhappy about the LessWrong article saying anything about neoreactionaries. And they’re willing to say why at typical length.

          • froztbyte@awful.systemsEnglish
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            2 years ago

            aww, poor babies. if only they didn’t literally have the leading nrx thinkers as figures of note in their own community makeup! alas, difficulty: impossible

      • Soyweiser@awful.systemsEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, wikipedia editor is weird and has long history doesn’t come as a huge shock to most people (im looking at it from the neutral side here). Doesn’t help that the format is a hugeass long blog, and Rationalist writing tends to feel very off-putting to normal people (“Feels obsessive if you need +20 pages to make a case.”). Think people would care more if this wicked editor was the head of some group which feels like a large cult, and has weirdly large influence on the tech industry, or linked to a large scam. TWG is also quite a weird guy himself. Or this part of his defense “Sure. Given that, do you endorse the choice of outlets like PinkNews and Huffington Post as reliable sources given their history of fabrication and errors, as discussed in the article?” Being against PinkNews makes you look weirdly anti-lgbt, and being against the huffington post in the current year is weird as their era of clickbait bs articles is long behind them and they actually write news.

        So yeah no big surprise that when it breaks containment nothing happens and nobody really seems to care. There is a funny parrallel between TWG’s post and our sneering at LW. If you forgive me quoting Gaiman: “It it is the prerogative of the fool to say the emperor has no clothes. But in the end the emperor is still emperor and the fool is still a fool.”

        E: It prob also doesn’t help TWG’s case that when people look up David they see he is an anti-cryptocurrencies person.

        E2: what is interesting is that this place seems to be the best documentation of all the different arguments going on about the post. We seem to link all the various places it is talked about, none of them seem to actually point back. (And of course it was posted on r/destiny and r/kotakuinaction2 (no idea why it is nr 2 now). And remember how we joke about how Rationalists have high school traumas?

  • V0ldek@awful.systemsEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Ok folks, serious question. I know rats love excessively long word salad stream-of-unconsciousness essays. I understand how somehow can be so high on their own farts that they think this is an acceptable way of presenting their “thoughts”. But…

    There’s no way rats actually read those longforms, right? Like, no one has enough time on their hands to read and engage with something of this length and this boring on a day-to-day basis, right? Same goes for those LessWrong posts, they must be banking on others not reading through the 10,000 words of nonsense, right?