This is going to be a fun one.
So here are the facts:
I commented on a news article about a mother and adult son charged with incest (and adultery as well for her.) This is what I said:
Someone responded to me and I replied before I realized my original comment was removed for being inappropriate. Then I added the edit when I saw.
The next day I discovered I’d been banned from that community for “pro-incest comments” and several others I don’t think I’ve ever been in for rule 4 violations. The orignal post was removed.
You can see those here:
Site rule 4 is: Usernames or posts/comments containing transphobia, homophobia, sexism, racism, ableism, zionism, anti-veganism, or trivializing COVID. No self-described or obvious fascists, conservatives, or reactionaries.
My comments had none of those things. I’d even go so far as to say my banning was reactionary.
Now, I’m not defending incest, especially not for myself. My problem is with puritanical laws interfering with the private sex lives of people. In my original comment I stated that grooming was a separate issue and should be dealt with, but that there is nothing inherently wrong with incest. That is, enthusiastic consensual sex between capable adults.
I know someone will bring up the Hapsburgs, so yes, children of incest should be avoided.
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=285.&lawCode=PEN
It’s California. So what’s that about reasonable?
Maybe there’s a reason they don’t get specific huh?
A 14-year-old having sex with an 18-year-old is still statutory rape, with or without the law on incest. That doesn’t change. We aren’t talking about pedophilia; we aren’t talking about age of consent; we aren’t talking about statutory rape, or rape of any kind.
The median age of first sexual contact is 14, with another 14-year-old. It’s a fair bet that when you were a minor, you had sex with other minors.
Two 14-year-olds having sex with eachother is not pedophilia; it’s not statutory rape. There are no criminal penalties for two 14-year-olds choosing to have sex with eachother. Unless they are related by blood. Then, they can be sent to state prison. This is bigotry.
Two 24-year-olds, being well above the age of consent, there is no serious question that they are “old enough”. They are capable of consent, and consent is granted. Completely inoffensive relationship; the state has no interest in intervening between them. And yet, if they discover they are biological kin, they are to be imprisoned. This is bigotry.
The pedophilic insinuations you are making play no role here. They serve only to distract. And yet you keep raising them, again and again. You insist on this unreasonable assumption that “old enough” doesn’t actually mean “old enough”, to distract and detract from the underlying issue. Engage in good faith, or don’t engage at all. Discuss the same-age couples above. Justify the california law calling for them to be imprisoned. Justify depriving them of their right to free association. Justify stripping them of their personal agency regarding consent. Justify leaving their future to the whim of judicial discretion.
Or concede that incest should not be an inherently criminal matter.
Sure but in California 18 15 isn’t and neither is 14 17 hence the law.
I’m not insinuating anything, did you happen to notice op responded to me and still refuses to specify what they define as age of consent? Kinda weird huh?
Also they’re free to associate they aren’t free to fornicate, you really need to look into the difference.
Have a nice day.
Like I said you keep saying that when you have a question you can’t answer and maintain your bullshit.
Should I point out in California there is no minimum age to marry and after marriage there is no statutory rape?
It’s gross to defend removing them bud.
Bad faith argument. None of that is being challenged. Have a good day.
Yeah, except the person you’re defending. You’re adorable, tell me to have a nice day and then continue the conversation one more time, it’ll be our thing.