• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    You…think engineers get to pick the product requirements?.. That’s not how anything works.

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      They design the phones. They chose not to have 3.5mm jacks in those devices. Thats not how it works?

      What im trying to say is

      Phone manufacturing companies from the CEO level all the way to the phone designers/engineers arent putting 3.5mm jacks in those devices. They dont want them.

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        Engineers are probably the last people who would get to make that decision though. Even if they argued and threatened to resign over it they may fail to get any deference on such a decision. Unless they could successfully argue that for a technical reason they should keep it or add it. Which obviously doesn’t make sense, they already have many designs without it to iterate on.

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          So like I said, regardless if they get to decide or not, “they aren’t building them in”.

          The company has decided not to put that hardware into the phones. The company doesnt want it. The conpany is not employing 3.5mm enthusiasts. The company doesnt like your ungrounded analog hardware being plugged into their digital inputs. The company has decided to allow USB-C adapters to fill the void of people who want to use analog equipment. The company hires people, but obviously they dont have anyone saying " ohhh what are we doing? We need to give TrickDacy a headphone slot!!"

          Thats not how it works? Because im pretty sure thats how it works.

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            It doesn’t really matter that much I was just pointing out that you had specifically said the engineers weren’t adding a headphone jack as if to give gravitas to this decision, but they don’t actually make it. That’s all.

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              Should I point out some engineers that have a say to counter you now? Or are we just going to pretend that engineers never have a say on how they engineer?

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                Just take the L. You’re wrong. Engineers don’t decide featureset unless they also happen to occupy another role in the company. Jesus.

                Also it’s funny how you’ve gone from “I’m right engineers decide it all” to “it doesn’t matter who decides it” and now we’re back to the former because you googled some atypical cases…?

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                    They take a list of features given to them by product people who have gathered the requirements from all the interested parties. They then attempt to design all the technical architecture to support those features. They typically wouldn’t decide anything not related to technical aspects. Such as “this is impossible because of x, y, z” or “this is very expensive to do so I don’t recommend it”. It’s a push and pull but if an engineer ever said “we’re doing this feature because I want it”, typically that would be strange and they would not get their way.

                    Why do you ask? I am quite confused by this exchange.