• limelight79@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ah yes because every driver obeys every law all the time. It’s only the cyclists that break laws! No driver would ever consider speeding, rolling through a stop sign, or being aggressive!

    Won’t someone think of the poor drivers!!

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      7 months ago

      Whatabout, whatabout, whatabout.

      The point is that while cyclists often get pissed off about the lack of safe driving by cars, there are many that similarly seem to ignore the rules of the road as applied to them. That may result in a collision with a vehicle whose driver is driving with proper care - with the cyclist tending to be on the losing end -but also other cyclists, pedestrians, etc.

      Getting creamed by a cyclist (or scooter, or skateboarder) going at speed down the sidewalk - or one blowing through an intersection against the lights - is not going to be a minor injury, and I’ve narrowly avoided having myself, my kids, and once my dog get taken out in this manner.

      Lately it’s been the battery-powered speakers scooters that are the worst culprits, but the cyclists who often bitch the most about cars are often the ones who seem to ride the least safely around here.

      So yeah, not every driver obeys every lease every time, but similarly ignoring laws and being an assist is a good way to increase your own odds of having a bad encounter with one of those drivers, or one of the many others who share the streets and sidewalks.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      Anyone who runs a red light is a stupid cunt.

      Anecdotally, in my lived experience, there are more stupid cunts on bicycles than in cars.

      That is all.

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          7 months ago

          I don’t understand. You’re saying bikes should be allowed to run the red lights because when cars inevitable t-bone them they’ll die?

          That seems pretty sick.

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            7 months ago

            Also ignoring that while the impact of a car versus cyclist or heavily in favor of the car, a cyclist can still cause major harm to another person, pet or even another cyclist

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    7 months ago

    Give cyclists lanes, so they wouldn’t have to stand in a half metre gap between an 18-wheeler and a traffic barrier covered in mix of 19th century soot and souls of the damned. Then they’ll follow the rules, case in point: entire Denmark.

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      7 months ago

      Fair but think about hitting and killing a cyclist who had run a stop sign or light. That doesn’t just go away. The person has to live with the trauma of killing another person potentially at no fault of their own.

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        6 months ago

        I’m not sure about running the red light, but there are cases where people have intentionally used cars to run people down in a mass shooting kind of style.

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      7 months ago

      I’m sure the parent whose kid or pet gets mowed down by a cyclist going full speed will appreciate that, hey at least it wasn’t more people who got hurt or killed!

      Entitled assholes exist behind many modes of transportation. That cars can cause significantly more damage doesn’t make the others less dickish, like this guy:

      https://youtu.be/EkdWuDi9j9E

      (and yes, I drive AND cycle AND like to jog too, depending on what the task at- hand is).

      That so many have come out screaming in the manner pretty much showcases the “rules for thee but not for me” attitude.