here’s what i have always done:
if the dates are > 3 weeks out, i am informing. i wont be in. i inform. then i don’t show.
if the dates are < 3 weeks snd only say a long weekend: again, i inform.
if the dates are “tomorrow”: i inform.
that’s all there is to it. if your “policy” is “find coverage” never do that part. managers can manage.
Scenario 1 is a great way to get fired
dunno how. i have used it in all my jobs since i was a teenager. i start the convo about how i do it when getting hired, and it’s never a “find out” secret. some folks think “hes just bs” but nope.
wait till you start a salaried job and while on pto/fto a boss calls you and you take that day back and don’t take pto that day. ;)
remind bosses that they have jobs to do too.
Maybe a few years ago but not now, that’s a great way to spend longer looking for work.
yeah to be fair i am 8 years in on this job and it’s got “unlimited pto” which is the horseshit you think it might be.
When I “request” time off, it’s not a request. It’s a notification. I will be gone. The work needed to be done is done or will be done by the deadlines. Any emergencies that arise in the meantime will be dealt with when I’m back. If my request is denied, that’s not my problem, I will still be gone.
You will also be without a job. Requests can be honored if they are timely and follow the rules but everyone can’t be off before forth of July or Christmas. There’s usually a process to be fair to others and the business.
Attention readers: before you make the mistake of digging through this thread, recognize that this poster is literally some shitty small manager of like 30 employees. Yet they talk like some deranged billionaire. Hysterical.
cosplay capitalists gonna cosplay.
30 employees is above average
Psycho. Going through posting history? Blocked.
Only total losers cry about people digging through their post history. Hey kiddo, it’s public information. Maybe don’t be a shit poster?
Also this is extra rich because while I do dig through post histories, I didn’t actually look at yours. You posted in this thread about how many employees you manage. Dumbass.
You will also be without a job.
Then I guess they’ll have to find someone to cover when I’m gone. either way, it’s a notice not a request.
It’s always funny to read
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You can’t use your PTO without coverage. You’re too critical to business functions to miss even a single day.
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We’ll fire you for any reason or no reason at all. We don’t even need you. You should be grateful we let you work here.
And folks wonder why 90% of businesses fail.
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I don’t find that as a professional attitude. It is not a team attitude as well. I understand there are certain events that cannot be missed and I would work with my employees to accommodate.
However, that attitude never lasts. Anywhere I have ever managed or been an employee. It is a roadblock to promotion or worse. And you can have the attitude “that’s not my problem”. But remember that next time you have an issue you bring to your boss and they say “it’s not my problem”. They are people too that report to supervisors.
know what is “professional”: PROFIT IS STOLEN WAGE. So start there and then your emps will consider your “professional” view on pto.
