• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Taiwan sounds like a weird place, if you are not allowed to record a surveillance video in your own home.
    It’s irrelevant that it was done with a camera on a cleaner, it’s no different than if it had been a dedicated surveillance.

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        10 days ago

        I am utterly devoid of any sympathy for a cheater. Sorry but it takes a lot of shameless gall to sue someone or press charges for anything after they catch you cheating.

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            10 days ago

            You can term this abuse if you want, but I see this as appropriate consequences for a hurtful act IMO. If you don’t like that don’t cheat.

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
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              10 days ago

              Revenge porn and recording someone having sex without consent is a crime regardless of what that person has done to you to hurt your feelings.

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                10 days ago

                Sure, I guess. I suppose it is also illegal for me to beat the shit out of someone who tried to mug me. It’s against the rules for a kid bullied in school to fight back. Certain actions invite harsh consequences. Doesn’t mean it’s not an entirely appropriate consequence to suffer for having cheated on someone.

                People don’t learn their lessons without consequences. And anyone who would violate someone’s trust like that certainly has a lesson that needs learning. I don’t get why you’re defending a cheater here, it is a very immature position to take in this situation and such an obvious and reasonable consequence for this person.

                • velma@sh.itjust.works
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                  10 days ago

                  Because people are justifying abuse when it’s very rarely, if ever, justified.

                  One person’s actions don’t justify your abusive actions regardless of how hurt you are.

                  Cheaters make terrible decisions that hurt their partners. I’m not defending that. But that’s independent of these revenge fantasies you all are coming up with for her.

                  She was punished by the courts as was he for their separate actions.

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    10 days ago

    I’m imagining them coupling and the robot vacuum just chilling in front of them the whole time and moving with them as they switch rooms.

  • velma@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    The man from Taoyuan, Taiwan, was sentenced to five months in prison for unlawfully recording intimate images.

    His suspicions eventually led to a discovery on Christmas Eve. The husband accessed a robot vacuum at the property remotely through an app, intending to communicate with his wife using the device.

    Instead, its live camera showed that another man was there, and he then activated the recording function, capturing footage of the two together.

    It wasn’t for catching her cheating, it was for unlawfully recording her having sex.

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      10 days ago

      On one hand - yeah. On the other - perfect evidence for the divorce case.

      I mean, it’s not like he deliberately set up a hidden camera to record her having sex. Just used an already available camera, that presumably she knew was there, since you usually buy that kind of stuff together.

      Without this recording she says she didn’t cheat, he cannot prove otherwise, and money and assets get split unfairly.

      Not necessarily saying this is how the case should have went. It’s just another angle to look at the situation from.

      • velma@sh.itjust.works
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        10 days ago

        No, he literally got in legal trouble not for catching his wife cheating, but for illegally recording her.

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          10 days ago

          He got in trouble for obtaining proof of her cheating, without which he may not have won the settlement that he won.

          • velma@sh.itjust.works
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            10 days ago

            There are other ways to catch cheating that don’t involve illegally recording someone without their consent.

            The fact that people in here are trying to justify crimes against this woman is wild. Cheating doesn’t strip away your rights or give permission for a spouse to abuse the other for cheating.

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              10 days ago

              I’m not disagreeing with you or justifying his actions. Just presenting the other side of the argument.

              I’m curious though. How would you propose he catch her cheating, including proof beyond reasonable doubt, that would guarantee a similar settlement or better?

              In the end, he got a nice settlement, but had to pay back a little less than a 3rd of it back for the recording. Sounds mostly fair, though I’d make it maybe a 5th or less instead of a 3rd.

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                10 days ago

                How would you propose he catch her cheating, including proof beyond reasonable doubt, that would guarantee a similar settlement or better?

                If there is a start recording button there is a stop recording button, he could have tried to avoid filming during sex perhaps. Maybe there are other camera’s in the house, or a video doorbell… but generally I agree on this: it will be his word against her without any proof, the proof won’t be proof when they’re just in the same house at the same time. What’s also weird if he would have entered the house and caught them having sex he wouldn’t have invaded her privacy. If I were him i’d be upset I had to pay money but relieved to be receiving some and if i were her i’d be upset I had to pay money but relieved it could’ve been worse.

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              10 days ago

              Please explain how you’d feel after the partner you are married to cheats on you, then sends you to jail for several months.

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                10 days ago

                That doesn’t allow me to start recording them having sex without consent, same as it doesn’t allow me to hit them just because I’m angry.

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                10 days ago

                Christ, Lemmy really is going downhill. Someone is making an argument of fact, and you’re making an argument on emotions.

                These are clearly not the same thing, yet you’re still here making bad faith arguments.