• Doom@lemmy.world
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    Wifi? You may as well believe in magic. Buy a box of cable and one of these!

    No testers - raw dog it. Party like a Quake party in 1999.

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    I climbed up in the roof crawl space (by no stretch is it an “attic”) and ran Cat6 to every room in my house 15 years ago. The living room and two smaller bedrooms got one, and the master bedroom got two.

    I’m very happy with the upgrade. I also run WiFi, of course, for phones and tablets, and my kid’s Steam Deck, etc.

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      I did the same but cat6a like 5 years ago. Though mine was primarily to limit wireless packet snooping/attacks, especially for devices that never got wpa3 support, not speed. There’s like 50-60 devices on my network and all but two were wireless…

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          I just ran patch cables, got them from Monoprice. Every room got a different color, in case I ever need to repair/replace a rooms connecting cable. Router to switch, switch to wall, wall to attic to other wall, wall to device. With faceplates + keystone jacks between the two sides of the walls.

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            Patch cable is stranded so it is pretty flexible. I can’t imagine you’ll need to redo one unless some nefarious animal starts gnawing on something.

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              Yeah, it’s one of those things where I was like, ‘it’s no extra cost, and can save me headaches in the future’ so why not. And I used the same colors for the entire run of each room, so if I ever forget what color a room is, I just look at the wall plate and cable.

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                Yeah I’ve never had colors but we used to run them in offices when we needed and we would just label the patch panels and wires and id just tape the ends and mark a sharpie like A1, A2,…A8, B1 etc when pulling, where A would be room and number would be the port. Then if you had multiple racks/closets we would do something like 224-C4 on the plate side, so you could say this is patched in in room 224, rack C, switch 4.

                I remember after a hurricane we were moving my company to another building and installing everything, we had crabs under the floor in the tubes they had to run cables so you could access them in the center of rooms or in areas that wouldnt have an easy drop on the first floor. First time I ever had gotten pinched by a crab trying to get them out lol.

                Pretty sure I started discussing one project and ended with another, so that may make no sense. Sorry for rambling.

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      Knocked a hole in the wall for my network cables in the 90s. My mum thought I could have, like, asked first. So fussy.

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    I’ve grown to hate these routers. They only seem useful if you live in an apartment and place them in the middle and your walls are made of paper. Bought a few through the years thinking more money = better wifi, but wall construction and placement have much more impact. Living in a brick house, they’re pretty shit. I’ve switched to non gamified wifi AP’s connected to ethernet and the wifi’s been great. Still prioritize wired wherever possible though.

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      Used to live in a 2 story house built in the 1900’s. It had plaster & lath walls. I ended up with 4 AP’s scattered about before we had decent WiFi coverage.

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      One of the worst things about those routers other than having generally poor coverage despite looking like a Crown of Thorns was that if you actually took advantage of the more advanced features like VLANs, port forwarding, static routes, FTP and all that stuff and set it up… It inevitably seemed that there was a 99% chance that a firmware update would not allow you to restore a backup of the router config on the updated device!

      That happened a couple times, spent days getting everything set up only to find out the firmware update refused to load a config made with an older version. F that. Never used those routers again.

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      If something looks cool and flashy and has tons of “extra functions” I stay the fuck away from it because I know the target demographic and I know it’s going to be shit in surprising ways.

  • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet. Setting up my new WAP I got 1.4gbps down on my phone. And I think my laptop touched 2 at one point.

    But Ethernet will always be more consistent.

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      WiFi 6e and 7 are legitimate competitors to standard 1gig Ethernet.

      In isolation, perhaps. Now cram 25 neighbors in high density housing in range with one another all using the same spectrum and see if that performance still is sustainable.

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        6ghz wifi doesn’t go very far, you’ll almost never see 25 6ghz connections.

        At work I still get about 700 down with 25+ devices connected. There’s legitimately about 50 wifi connections despite being 30 floors up, but they’re all 2.4ghz which is worthless. Even 5ghz kinda sucks. But 6ghz? Rock solid.

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          The increase in frequency reduces signal penetration. Things like walls become major sources of signal attenuation. In open office plans, with no obstructive walls, no problem. In a house or apartment where you’re separated by multiple walls (and the materials/thickness those walls are made of) that can add up to significant signal loss.

          I haven’t personally tried any 6GHz wifi technologies. Have you used it in any places where you’re separated by obstructions from the access point?

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            Yes. I got 1.4gbps down through 2 walls. 6ghz penetrates a lot further than you’d think. And even weak 6ghz is better that 5ghz until the very outer reaches of signal. 6ghz wifi is truly magic.

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              And even weak 6ghz is better that 5ghz until the very outer reaches of signal.

              I’m not doubting you, but I’m confused how this can be. My understanding is generally ss the wavelength of the radio wave shrinks, signal through medium attenuation increases. What is it about 6GHz over 5GHz that provides that island of stability you’re describing?

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                I’m not saying that 6ghz has more range or anything. I’m saying that weak 6ghz is better than 5ghz at any signal until you get to the outer limits of 6ghz. 6ghz is just that much faster that even when the signal is weak it’s better. And it’s so much faster that even when it drops packets it can resend them so much quicker. And the latncy is lower, so there’s less time between requesting a retransmit, and getting that data.

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                  Ah gotcha, so you’re saying 6GHz is better than 5GHz because of higher information density irrespective of lower signal penetration. That makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to explain that point. I appreciate it.

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    I don’t understand. Who thinks these are comparable?

    They serve very different purposes.

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      Still a computer. And quite integral one. If it doesn’t work, your internet and all devices that connects to it won’t work. This is a device that has to work 24/7 and produce 0 issues at any time ad long ad it works. Higher end ones also have quite a bunch of useful settings and customization options. A normie might not need them, but a power user would appreciate these settings and how reliable this router is.

      But for 750 that is overkill.

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      They are computers, more or less. Very specific and controlled computers, with only exactly what they need to do their job. Mostly anyways.

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        Compounded that 2.5gb is the norm now with wifi7. Consumer routers with 2.5 were inflated to being with last I checked and I have no idea what they cost now.

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        Nah here in Europe its the same shit. A 100-120€ router a few years ago might cost 200€ today. Top tiers are also doubled in price.

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    i love cables, cables are the best thing, give me snakey boy, give me wired headphones, give me wired keyboard and mice