The post in question
Ok this mod has gone absolutely mask-off about being a homophobic bigot despite their two-faced attempt at mollifying the backlash. Shame on you @loopy@lemmy.world
Someone needs to tell that mod that dad jokes aren’t for the kids.
If your 5-year-old can’t understand someone being gay then you’re a shit parent.
It really depends on the kid. Some 5 year olds just don’t give a fuck about any of that relationship shit and IMO it’s not so important that they need to be sat down and told all about all the attraction options. I don’t just mean the alternate ones but also man and woman.
If they ask questions or show interest in the topic, I think they should be answered honestly, but the only essential information at that age IMO is about personal space, not touching people who don’t want to be touched (at all if that’s their desire but especially in the private areas), understanding that they are the ones in charge of deciding if someone else touching them is ok (though at that age, it would be more of a “you don’t have you let anyone see or touch there unless it’s an emergency like it got hurt”), and that anyone asking them to keep secrets from their parents without it involving presents or a happy surprise isn’t their friend.
That said, there’s nothing wrong with this joke. Either it will go over the kid’s head and they ignore it or it will make them curious and prompt those questions. If you respond to those questions with deflections and/or lies, then I’d agree with the shit parent accusation. Same thing applies to not wanting certain topics visible at all for fear that kids might ask questions about them. That cowardice isn’t doing their kids any favours.
You can be honest about what sex is without giving the necessary details for them to act it out.
so a teenager’s dad cannot crack dad jokes anymore?
Nah, the sole mod for that comm is just a weirdo prude.
I bet a lot of teenagers going through the “my parents are the most cringetastic creatures in existence” phase would love for that to be the case 😁
“Of course their gonna know what intercourse is by the time they hit fourth grade, they got the discovery channel, don’t they?”. In most situations like this, pre-internet, your older cousins would say “You’ll find out when you’re older”.
Do we know what mod made this very homophobic decision, because I would like to know that they’ve been banned for this.
A reasonable reason to remove it was because it’s not a dad joke. A funny joke, but not a dad joke
While I somewhat agree, that wasn’t the reason given.
Right, I was trying to imply that their reason was bad
One thing that everyone should learn in sex ed is the Kinsey scale 0-6, and bisexual is 1-5 on the scale, so that’s most of the scale. Most people don’t know this and if they do, most won’t admit the same gender attraction. Even in generally decent marriages to the opposite gender, they never know each other fully. Some might confuse that as choosing to be “straight” but they are still Kinsey 4 or whatever, and should not be resentful of people who chose both ways or not marriage. They should support equal rights too. It’s all good whatever number people are, be free!
Isn’t that scale pretty limited though, it doesn’t consider the difference between romantic and sexual attraction. Eg, desperately want to guzzle cock but can only love a woman. Basically the stereotype of republican conferences crashing grindr.
Now that you mention it: if we get married, my partner will totally be able to tell people “I’m not straight but my husband is” if anyone asks her. She’d love that and so would I 😄🥰
Equating gay/bi people with sex and therefore inappropriate for children is a tactic of bigotry. The same argument was used to say that it’s wrong for Mr. Ratburn to get married on Arthur, despite the episode being completely innocuous, or for any of the lgbtq characters in Steven Universe to exist. It’s literally an argument to exclude queer people from society.
The concept of “Dad” is too complex for children, and implies (at its core) the act of sex.
We should ban the concept of “Dad” from all forms that could be seen by children.
Same reason why showing gay relationships or drag on TV makes “christians” go nuts. They equate it to adult sexual behavior in order to silence it and keep it away from “family communities.”
Only american christians really. In the UK it really isn’t a problem.
Scrolling through the community quickly, there were like 3 jokes mentioning a husband’s wife, one mentioning a car’s manual transmission stalling, and one that’s over a week old that includes the word "ass’ which is directly breaking the no-profanity rule, yet somehow the concept of a gay couple is too confusing for a 6 year old? Oh and also a joke about “Cherenkov radiation” which I am 1000% confident no 6 year old on earth has ever heard of.
PTB
Maybe people should be reporting those other posts mentioning heterosexual couples to make a point.
You know what they say: Alex and Philip don’t make Robert
Well now you’ve done it. You’re going to get removed for being racist.
Fair enough! Wish the mod was weighing in here at least then.
I’d tag them, but de-anonymizing (sp?) mods is against the rules of YPTB 🤷🏻
Oh really? I missed that rule, I thought it was just using admin powers to reveal them was the no no. There’s only one mod of that community.
There’s only one mod of that community.
Hence why I’d be able to know who to tag without being an admin myself 😁
I’m pretty sure that we’re not supposed to mention even the most guessable identity if it’s not in the modlog entry, though 🤷🏻
That’s wild when the first posting guideline is
Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
Seems like that’s a tricky path to walk when posting here.
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com Any chance we could get clarification on the naming of PTB mods here? @unruffled@anarchist.nexus
Maybe people should be reporting those other posts mentioning heterosexual couples to make a point.
Mods would just ban people for pointing out the posts or comments breaking rules rather than addressing the issues being reported
I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with that comment honestly.
Lemmy.world not beating the allegations again.
Its the joys of how hard it is to convey sarcasm on the internet 😂.
Favorite removal reason from world is making too many reports so deleting instantly rather than locking
Sexuality??? “Likes to hold hands/be married with girls and/or boys” is not “sexual” and little kids can quite easily get that.
Seriously, is a kid with straight married parents not allowed to know their parents are married/like each other??? Tf
I sometimes worry that the straight, cis folks aint right :/
Yeah, I’ve often thought we were a bit off. Ask someone why they are against gay people and they almost always find a way to be bothered by what’s going on in the bedroom. But if you start asking them about their heterosexual bedroom activities they clam up and seem offended that you asked. And they still don’t get why they are wrong
These days, both the straights and the straits are not OK.
You are correct that I’m not right, but just for different reasons.
Speaking as a cishet, we mostly aren’t right but most of us are wrong in better ways 😉
I’m not going to go as far as PTB. There’s no out of scale action, the removal was in good faith, and the mod has been consistent in their moderation.
This is, however, clueless mod territory. It’s bad application of a rule done in ignorance. It isn’t okay, it shouldn’t have been removed.
No power trip, just a bad decision, and there is a difference between the two
Having seen the mod’s reply post in the community, I’m inclined to agree with you on all points tbh…
My kid knew about gay people from the day he was born. PTB for sure.
All you have to do to illustrate how stupid this removal is, is to imagine this couple also has a kid, whom this joke is told infront of.
Spoilers: The kid likely isn’t going to get it, in the same way that many many kids cartoons make reference based jokes and quips, and even mildly raunchy jokes that kids also do not understand… unless the context has already been previously explained to them.
Thats the point, thats how they work as jokes, you need the context otherwise its meaningless.
Then the other part of the joke is you get it while the kid doesn’t, the joke landing two different ways at the same time makes you feel more knowledgable, that joke is for you, the parent/guardian, so the show is fun for you too.
Even if there were 3-6 yo lemmy users… the logic for removing this still doesn’t actually make sense.
Part of the cleverness of the joke is that it is indecipherable to a kid that doesn’t understand sex or sexuality… it thus doesn’t ‘expose’ kids to anything they don’t already understand.
Also, I’m not sure where the 3-6 year old comes in in the first place. The best “dad jokes” are something that a teenager would groan at. Little kids don’t understand shitty puns either, and those are the best.
not to mention, dads can still dad-joke with their adult children!
Ptb. That the mod doesn’t understand the difference between romantic and sexual attraction says a lot about them as a person. It says even more that they expect the jokes to be understandable by a 5yo.
On the bright side, this is Lemmy! Anyone can make a new Dad Jokes community that doesn’t have that stupid rule.
