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      And unfortunately part of that working class are class traitors who vote against the rest of our interests as they pull the ladder up behind them.

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    Seems to me you can handle it one of two ways.

    One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease. And then you yourself won’t have any safety net when you’re that age.

    Two, you can focus on the class struggle. Focus on weakening the billionaires who control us and who made up this bullshit in the first place. Target income inequality, access to services, and draconian employment practices. Begin the century-long transformation of capitalism. This is the harder road.

    So which one will do more good?

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      One, you can punish the boomers. When Z gets in power, abolish pensions, Social Security, and Medicare. Let the old die from poverty and disease.

      I mean we can place warranted blame on them without murdering them.

      I can simultaneously fight the class war while calling out asshole class traitors who are pulling the ladder up behind them. It’s not like they’re going to join forces with us. They’ve made it abundantly clear they’re planning on fucking us over all the way to the grave.

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      The one that will do the most good is holding guilty parties accountable, instead of presenting a non sequitir strawman.

      People rightly hate boomers as a group because they are largely entitled spoiled brats who call everyone else entitled spoiled brats.

      They are largely the living embodiment of moral hazard who deem themselves inherently correct and reasonable while being obviously short sighted hypocrites, who have indeed caused their children massive sanity/psychic damage to the point that its now a widespread practice for kids to cut off all contact with their boomer parents. They are the ‘fuck you, I got mine’ generation. They are the weak men who create hard times, while thinking themselves to be the strong men who create good times.

      WASP Boomers are also the group that is actually most responsible for driving up housing prices and destroying the economy and society in that way. They consistently voted for NIMBY construction and tax policies. Most second+ homes are owned by Boomer ‘Mom and Pop’ landlords, not actually private equity firms. Yes the Boomers did create the political environment that gave rise to PE RE firms by voting to effrctively disenfranchise non WASP non Boomers, as well as destroy traditional pensions and replace them with 401ks, but they also are the most likely group to personally own a few other homes or have house flipped a number of times.

      Yes, we should have actual policy responses that specifically target these and other specific anti social economic practices and tax them into non viability, but we can’t, at least not at a national level, because of the dysfunctional government voted for, for decades, by Boomers.

      The current crop of billionaires are the inevitable result of the Boomer mindset codified into formal societal rules. Yes we should specifically tax billionaires out of existence, but we also need to dismantle the systems that allow for billionaires to arise in the first place.

      Presenting a dichotomy of ‘kill all boomers and abolish social safety nets’ vs ‘tax billionaires and do class struggle’ is a laughable misdirect.

      What would actually do more good is a combination of in depth and honest economic and tax policy reform, wealth taxes and such, accompanied by acknowledging the fact that many Boomers have been abusive hypocritical sociopathic narcissists in every dimension of their lives and have caused considerable direct harm to people personally.

      The zeitgeist of Boomer hate is never going to end until Boomers collectively take accountability for the harm they’ve caused, economic and psychological.

      The Boomers do not get to spend their whole lives playing at being rugged individualists while actually consistently rigging the system for their own preferential treatment, and then when that largely fails them because they got out sharked by better sharks, then get to play the “we’re all in this together guys” card.

      No. We’d be idiots to trust Boomers not to continue to act selfishly while disguising their self serving greed behind a different rhetorical justification. All the Boomers have ever collectively shown themselves to be is arrogant selfish lying assholes who will betray you when its benefits them personally, and then belittle you for not seeing that coming.

      I’ll believe a Boomer is serious about class struggle when they actively advocate for something like exponentially increasing marginal property tax rates on home values, for personal or business ownership… when they commit to actually mandating their own outsized wealth be redistributed to those with less.

      Instead what we see in the most Boomer over represented areas is … total repeal of property taxes.

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      As a millennial I find it a little funny whenever someone says that type of stuff about Gen Z, because they used to say that about us. I hate to tell you but the people that get into power are almost always the shit heads. It’s not a generational thing. It’s a wealth and privilege thing. The future Gen Z leaders will be the same entitled out-of-touch shitheads that they always are.

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    I know about a half dozen younger people who voted for Trump, believing him to actually be the Senator Armstrong-type person the meme war made him out to be.

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          Actually we were just talking about this further down. Somebody called me on my shit and it turns out +65 or older voted exactly the same as in 2020. From other age groups many switched sides to Maga except 18-30 who voted Maga instead of staying home like usual

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                Oh no, are you losing the freakazoid shit because you’re tired? Why aren’t you writing some long-winded self report about how you hate women?

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                  I’ll say literally anything to keep you replying to my posts. You’re doing smashing PR for me and I kind of like wearing you around like a cocksleeve.

                  You should be more timely though, you’re missing the initial rush of traffic every time

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    The elected officials sending everyone off to die for war are often older than boomers. It’s a rich and powerful group more than a generational group.

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    And for the colonial child trafficking genocidal apartheid state of Israel. For the third time

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    The final fuck you is when they reverse mortgage the house and blow through their entire net worth, maybe leaving enough to cover the retirement home, before kicking the bucket and leaving their kids with fuck all.

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      My Silent Gen parents packed the entirety of their priceless antiquarian book collection, and spent a bundle sending it to their book dealer friends in the UK. All to keep their “ungrateful children” from getting it.

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      So, I totally understand the mindset you’re coming from. But if they built their fortune through years of labor, are they not entitled to spend or give it as they see fit?

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        Government subsided single family home purchase programs, subsidized highways, gasoline half the cost compared to the developed world and retirement accounts. Yep all their own effort.

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          And they instituted those systems themselves? They can’t act on policy that impacts them when their only input is a vote or two?

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    The boomer generation failed to develop class consciousness. GenXers failed as well, as did the Millenials after them and the Zoomers following.

    The lack of sufficient class consciousness to positively impact society actually unites every generation more than it divides.

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      you make it sound like a failure of the generations, and not a heavily targeted campaign that was started before the millennials were born specifically to stop them.