I have once (1) woken up feeling completely refreshd and ready for the day without any chemical assistance and I still feel revolted thinking that that’s normal for some people.
That’s me every day. Sleep like a baby every night.
As a bonus, I have a bizarre talent of being able to wake up exactly when I need to. I always wake up before my alarm, even when I set it for earlier than usual.

Disgusting
(…ly jealous, please teach me your ways)
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I had that for one summer. Consistently waking 10 minutes before my alarm. So consistently that I stopped bothering to even set an alarm.
It was great, right up until the clocks went back and I was left waking up over an hour before I needed to.
Weirdly, the only way I found to break the cycle was to start setting an alarm.
I get that every time I go to bed at around 5-7 AM and wake up 5-8 hours later. Try it
But also
Get tested for sleep apnea, that makes you feel more tired after sleeping
I’m like 90% sure I don’t have sleep apnea, top tip tho.
I only get that after a night of binge drinking. So for better or for worse, like maybe twice a year. But that’s definitely chemical assistance lol
I did my share of binge drinking when I was younger, all it ever did was ruin my sleep.
The most fantastical part of dungeons and dragons is the 8h long rest that heals you up and gives you all your skills back.
I get 8 hours sleep and consistently feel tired and awful every time. 10 hours, 6 hours, far better experiences.
since i quit caffiene i went from 9 hours of sleep and feeling tired all day to 6 and a half hours of sleep and feeling fine
If you have trouble sleeping but don’t have an obvious medical causes for it, I highly recommend simply abstaining from caffeine entirely (sub for decaf) and try reading for an hour before bed, no phone usage. It’s miraculous how much of a difference it makes. I still sometimes have caffeine as a treat on the weekends, but only before noon.
Damned! I was about to go to bed and instead I read that thread. Now I won’t have my 8 hours… :(
I sleep fine. It’s waking that’s hard. If it’s not when my body wants to wake, I hate life for the first sixish hours of the day. Doesn’t matter if I had 3 hours or 10.
When you finally get 8 hours of sleep and it genuinely starts making sense why they recommend it
When you finally get 8 hours of sleep and it genuinely starts making sense why they recommend it
I just started using that feature on some smart watches that wakes you up when you’re in light sleep within 30 minutes of your alarm, and DANG–game changer, seriously. For the last few mornings I’ve woken up feeling better after six hours of sleep than on a lot of mornings where I’ve had a hard wakeup after nine.
EDIT: It’s called “Smart Wake” on Android and Garmin watches, it’s an app like “AutoWake” for Apple Watch, and it’s “Smart Alarm” for Pebble.
My brain has a better feature.
If I am supposed to go somewhere, I just wake up every 15-30 minutes until I finally see the right time on my watch. Doesn’t even need to be smart one.
Do I feel light-headed and tired? Yes. But it’s for free!An effective way to reduce sleep related anxiety is to take a heavy dose of fentanyl every day. This is medical advice, I am a lawyer doctor.
I used to get that sometimes. Rough way to wake up.
Sleep as Android is good too
When I was looking into this a while back, iirc the only way you could use that one for free was on a phone and the watch version had a subscription. I kind of need it to be on my wrist so that I don’t wake up my wife, and I’m not going to pay a subscription fee for an alarm clock.
Laughs in chronic fatigue
I got treated for sleep apnea, got treatment for my chronic insomnia, I stay off my electronics for at least an hour before bed, I don’t have any caffeine except a cup of coffee in the morning, and all that and I still get god awful sleep and wake up feeling like shit.
Might be depression my guy
Do you fuck with white noise or dark curtains? I got surgery for sleep apnea but lowkey white noise and dark curtains made way more of an impact on my quality of sleep. Ignore if unhelpful
I can’t imagine being unable or unwilling to sleep. Sleep is my go-to favorite method of escapism. I can fall asleep anywhere, anytime. And my dreams invariably fill the voids in my life, like cuddling with soft fluffy loving precious housepets that I don’t actually have, my children when they were in their adorable toddler stage, love & romance, family, big clean white house that I don’t actually live in, but always do in my dreams. I’ve never tried drugs & never will, but the bliss I experience from sleeping seems comparable to how people describe heroin. Except sleep costs nothing, is always available, causes no trouble, & is a whole lot healthier than heroin 😄
i have do 8-10hrs, anymore will make me groggy throughout the day, and wierdly ill.
I wouldn’t know
I always go to bed early enough to get 7-8 hours of sleep, but according to the sleep tracker on my watch, I sleep like shit. It’s no wonder I’m always so fucking tired.
I second getting a sleep study. The CPAP seems like a medieval torture device, but after you push through the anxiety attacks, you start to feel so good in the mornings.
Also, since you already use a watch, I have to recommend the feature that wakes you up in your lightest sleep phase within a half hour of your alarm. It’s called Smart Wake on Android and Garmin watches, it’s an app like AutoWake for Apple Watch, and it’s Smart Alarm for Pebble. I’ve only been using it for a few days, but it’s already a game changer.
My CPAP made a huge difference for me, I no longer find myself nodding off in the middle of the day for example, but I still don’t feel good in the morning. I need to try that smart wake
My new place creaks a lot. My roommate paces the house all night and doesn’t sleep. Which means I don’t sleep.






